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Post by Einstein on Mar 21, 2003 11:53:01 GMT -5
OK, I've waded through pages of vet books and web sites, and I'm more confused then when I started!
I don't vx for Rabies, don't need to here. I do vx for:Eastern, Western, Venesuelan Encephalomyetis, Influenza, and Tetnus. This year I will start WNV vx.
OK, my question is, I have not vx for Rhino in 5 years, is that the vx I need for this Herpes virus that doesn't have a vx? None of the vets out here seem to know, my neighbor doesn't vx or deworm and our horses CAN have contact, and he does bring in new horses, but I don't know from where. And I do intend to show (event?) this summer.
Thanks guys, I'm so confused and worried now that this herpes virus is in KY. It's getting closer and is so scary!
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Post by Skye Pilot on Mar 21, 2003 12:06:47 GMT -5
I believe that the shot for EHV-1 does nothing for the Neurologic symptoms of the the EHV-1 disease.... there is no vaccine www.panoramaequine.com/health_main/rhinopneumonitis.htmlThis is why I am bringing Red home this weekend and considering not showing this year. I am going to be conscience of not sharing or touching other horse's equipment, buckets and where I go. |
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Post by niaru on Mar 21, 2003 12:24:08 GMT -5
Sue is right, from everything that I've read, the available Rhino (Herpes) virus will NOT protect against the neurological strain, which is the one that killed horses in OH.
I am a bit confused, too, by the way: Charm just got her first Spring shots, Eastern, Western, Tetanus, West Nile, Rabies. The vet told me to get an appointment in 6-8 weeks for everything except Rabies (it's good for one year). Then I read in this month's Practical Horseman that some of these shots need a booster in 2 weeks. Aargh. Me think I'll call the vet (yet again--he's gonna hate me!)
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Post by Einstein on Mar 21, 2003 12:26:52 GMT -5
So in a gelding, is there any reason to vx for Rhino? Is it thought that this will help fight the Herpes virus?
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Post by Skye Pilot on Mar 21, 2003 13:10:14 GMT -5
It would help fight the respiritory part of the disease if the horse was exposed to it.
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Post by Smay on Mar 21, 2003 15:16:03 GMT -5
... for the West Nile booster only...my vet says three weeks for that booster, and the shot is NOT effective without the second shot, so first round...then three weeks later, second round, and then you're protected for the year, and only need a booster the next spring. The second shot must be given prior to mosquito season for the best results. SOme people booster Rhino every three months. For traveling, showing horses especially, but I only do it every spring and fall. And as you know, the Rhino modified live vaccine is only good for respiratory flu... Broodmares get Pneumabort. the killed vaccine, every month or so during pregnancy.
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Post by CatB on Mar 21, 2003 15:42:39 GMT -5
I don't vx for Rhino, never have. But then again, I never did any showing until last year. Like already mentioned, I was told by a vet just last week that the rhino vx won't prevent the neurological strain. I do all the other ones - Influ., Potomac, EWVE, WNV, and tetanus. I only vx for rabies if seems highly prevalent. But, after the mild winter we've had, it may be a good idea.
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Post by Vida on Mar 21, 2003 16:14:01 GMT -5
I stopped giving Rhino a couple of years ago as it kept making Mikhail sick with green/yellow goobers,coughing and respitory stuff. The Rhino vac is just for a flu thing - there's no vac for the herpes thing going around. I've taken my guys to other barns without being vaccinated for Rhino and they've stayed healthy even if other horses aroung them were sick. I do rabies, tetanus, potomac and this year will be adding west nile. The first year you give west nile (or most vaccines), you need to booster within about 3 weeks and thereafter just once a year.
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Post by Einstein on Mar 21, 2003 16:21:05 GMT -5
Thanks guys! So there's no real reson for me to add the Rhino to my guys is there? There were 2 horses at an old show barn I rode at that contracted the spinal Rhino from the vx and were euthanized in the end, so I stopped giving it, and my boys showed all over the country and Canada.
My thought was that they were probably exposed to quite a bit showing like that but are/were healthy and built up resistance. Maybe that just made me feel better, who knows!
I need to start WNV soon, I did not last year, there were no confirmed cases in Co until August/September. But I'm doing it for sure this year!
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Post by kmmom on Mar 21, 2003 19:10:06 GMT -5
I evented Kate while she was pregnant and agonized over her exposure to communicable illnesses. I spent the whole summer calling and writing various USCTA officials to see if there was a way to keep from having to have her subjected to the "bit check" before dressage. They finally passed a rule--NOW HEAR THIS--that you do not have to let the bit checker touch your horse! But if you don't let her feel the bit before going into dressage, you have to take the bridle off for inspection on your way out, and if your bit is found unacceptable, you will be eliminated. (If it was found unacceptable before your test, you would have been allowed to change it.) Also, there have been many events in this area that have the bit checkers wear gloves and/or rinse in an antiseptic solution. Just ask her to change her gloves BEFORE she does your horse. When I have asked, no one has ever objected. (And when I told some that Kate was in foal, most were content to let me pull the bit to the side for them to see.) Certainly some viruses are airborn and cannot be avoided, but we can avoid all kinds of contamination if we're careful. And vaccinate. Don't mean to be preachy, but I think about this a lot. (And I'm a nurse, so I see the worst of it.)
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Post by Einstein on Mar 21, 2003 19:48:15 GMT -5
Kmmom, do you think it's wise for me to vx my 3 geldings for Rhino if the Herpes virus isn't affected? That's my dilemma here. I'm worried about the Herpes outbreak, and I think Lynne said, I also worry that vets, manufatures, whoever, are down playing it, and it scared the bejesus outta me.
That said, I hate to over vaccinate. hence my struggle. It has not come to Colorado that I know of yet, but still very scary! I don't think you're preachy, that's the advice I need ;D
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Post by kmmom on Mar 21, 2003 20:10:15 GMT -5
Michelle, as everyone has already said, the Rhino will not protect your horses from the neurological strain, so if that is why you are vaccinating, don't bother. But if there is a likelihood of infection with the common Rhino , which (except for pregnant mares) is usually not much more that an upper respiratory infection (to my knowledge), then you have to weigh the odds. Can you put up with your horse(s) being laid up for a week or two, versus the hassle, expense and potential for side effects? I only vaccinated against Rhino when my mare was pregnant. Good luck
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