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Post by CC on Mar 20, 2003 9:22:10 GMT -5
on that right hock...sigh.
Vet thinks it may have to do with standing around all winter and not really using it.
Carambi feels good though. I've done limited trot/canter but he feels great and is not spooking (which is a big sign it is bothering him).
So, I'll just keep slowly conditioning him and vet will reflex in one month. I'm also going to try giving him the oral HA. There are studies that indicate it does work and there is now a cheaper version (same ingedients as Conquer according to my vet). Plus, we will give the IV Legend once a month instead of every other month for a while.
How are the other lame-os doing??? Hopefully better!
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Post by Smay on Mar 20, 2003 10:02:51 GMT -5
... just continue with your easy conditioning for spring, cause I have heard horses flexing positive their whole lifetime and yet, are not really lame in any sense. If he feels good at trot and canter, I say ride him! Actually, now that I think of it....I, PERSONALLY, would flex lame on about all four appendages, if someone pulled my leg up and held it tight for a bit, then told me to trot! hahahaha PS. Next year is a long time away, but I am already excited about riding Dancer! I hope you still LET me when I come to MD! hahaha!
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Post by Skye Pilot on Mar 20, 2003 10:15:04 GMT -5
Oh CC.... best wishes and huggs to Carambi.....
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Post by CC on Mar 20, 2003 10:31:04 GMT -5
OH S.May, of course I'll let ya ride next year!
P.S. Did ya check out my pictures from Punchestown, Ire. and a picture of my sister's mare, Maggie, and my hanoverian? They are probably a few pages back by now...forgot you were gone or i would have waited to post them!
Carambi flexed positive in that leg when I bought him (and I bought him anyway!). And riding made it better! It's definitely an old injury type of thing..he always flexes negative on the left hind (my vet always checks both). So hopefully, he'll be ok in a few weeks. Thanks!
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Post by Einstein on Mar 20, 2003 11:09:19 GMT -5
CC~Shorty was positive on 3 legs. We xrayed in the pre purchase and he has bone spurs and old chips in the hocks and navicular in front. I bought him anyway and showed the 4'9 jumpers and up for 3 years! He never acted lame, we did maintance with shoes and meds, if he needed a boost he got Bute the night before a huge class, but he was never lame. Maybe a little off or stiff then worked out of it.
If Cambri is still sound and doesn't act like he's in pain, then, if he were mine, I'd just keep it in the back of my mind and keep riding. Especially if he likes it. Shorty lived to jump and show, he was happier, you could tell, so I kept at it with the idea of backing him down when the jumps got too big/much for him, but they never did.
Good luck with him! I would think he'll let you know when it's too much, although, I have to say I think TBs are very stoic!
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Post by HokieLee on Mar 20, 2003 11:15:59 GMT -5
CC-I think I'm going to try the oral HA as well-KVVET has a cheaper version than the Conquer.
I think I read somewhere that most horses will flex positive at one time or another. It sounds like the riding and the supplements will loosen him up and make him feel better-hope so!
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Post by Vida on Mar 20, 2003 21:59:01 GMT -5
You've been battling with this for awhile. Remember when Mikhail was lame for about 10 years or so and I had all these goofy vet work ups and went through so many farriers trying to get him sound? Once I gave up fussing over him, giving him god knows what supplements and just basically ignoring it (I'd had it!) and riding him like crazy, he just got better and better! He's still stiff in his back hocks but seems to ride out of it and the more I ride him, the better he moves. Or maybe the more I stopped worrying and just decided to have fun with him, the better he got. Don't send yourself into a stupor like a did getting pedantic over everything as I missed Mikhail's prime years of good riding time while fussing over him constantly when I should have just been out riding him and having fun.
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Post by niaru on Mar 21, 2003 8:24:32 GMT -5
CC-can you tell me what exactly it means to 'flex positive'? Is it when the vet flexes the hind leg, then trots the horse, there is lameness?  Is Carambi on any joint supplement? They might help. There are so many of them now that you may have to try a few before finding one that works...I had good results with Grand Flex on an arthritic Morgan, CortaFlex has very good reviews, too... |
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Post by CC on Mar 21, 2003 11:55:08 GMT -5
Thanks guys!!
Vida, you are so right! That is basically what I am doing as it has worked before. However, there are times when he just isn't working right and I just can't ride through it. It's that :curse: dressage! As my instructor says, it really opens up a can of worms because you learn to feel your horse so well, you can't ignore when they feel uneven etc.
In Carambi's case, he refuses to come through and round. he's not naughty but will resist in his neck and jaw.
Niaru,
Yes, flexing is holding the leg up and flexed for a certain amou7nt of time than trotting the horse off immediately. A few lame steps are usually nothing to worry about but I could feel how uneven Carambi was as I was trotting him out. Didn't need the vet to tell me! Depending on what part of the leg is flexed, the ankle can be checked or the hock/stifle.
He has been on the maximum dose of Grand Flex and MSM for almost 2 years. Plus Legend IV every other month.
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