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Post by niaru on Mar 19, 2003 8:26:51 GMT -5
Charm's right hind pastern is hot and swollen (between fetlock and coronary band, the swelling is at the back and outside of the pastern)...she walks fine on it, seems just a tad off at the trot (although since I was trotting her in hand I couldn't see much), but I don't like the swelling and heat. WHAT did she do?! The only thing I can think off (unless she did something in turnout) is when I was riding her the other day, we walked through a big puddle and she slipped and took a wrong step on that leg, but it didn't seem bad at the time...Aaargh I am getting paranoid here, help! yesterday I hosed the pastern area, walked her, hosed again, put some liniment on it...I'll go back today to see how it is, hose it again and call the vet if it's not better...*sigh*
Should I give her bute anyway? Is B-L solution ok for swelling and inflammation? Aaargh...
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Post by HokieLee on Mar 19, 2003 8:48:30 GMT -5
I have used the B-L solution in lieu of bute because Madeline HATES bute and had good results. It should help with the heat and swelling. Can't help you much more than that but I hope it's just a boo-boo from slipping and goes away quickly.
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Post by Smay on Mar 19, 2003 8:59:30 GMT -5
..although I also thought Ad's Cypress Babe injury was a "nothing" thing...so I was wrong there too. But I seem to see a lot of exracehorses whose pasterns are subject to swelling up from OLD injuries or strains - everytime they either play too hard or work and then are stalled for a period of time. Winny does this very often - on ONE side, he tends to swell quite dramatically if I've ridden him kind of hard, and then put him up in a stall. He also will slim right back down when I turn him out for the day - only to swell at night in his stall again. This goes on for a couple of days. I loved having the snow this winter, because when I put him out with "hot" legs, he'd ice them down and exercise them and come in that evening with the coldest, tightest legs again! I'd say cold hose her, and let her walk around in turnout as much as possible, and then see if she doesn't just tighten up. I guess I wouldn't give her any bute or buteless just yet... Those TBs and their stomaches!
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Post by niaru on Mar 19, 2003 9:11:01 GMT -5
Thanks guys...Smay that's why I thought about the Buteless...it's supposed to be easier on their stomachs. (For all I know Charm might have ulcers, like a lot of racers, so I don't want to mess with that).
Hopefully the swelling will have gone down today.
If not, I'll hose it again and wrap it with Furazone. When I saw her yesterday she had been out all morning...I thought she might have a little scrape, but I couldn't see anything...and of course my kids have early release today...Aaaaargh!
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Post by adcooper on Mar 19, 2003 9:31:34 GMT -5
Ouch! Poor dolly! Cold hosing, I suppose. But don't take any advice from me! I'm feeling every bit a know-nothing where horse legs are concerned. If only they could TELL us how they injured themselves.....but then they'd probably tell us all kinds of things we DON'T want to know. Think of the steady stream of smart remarks:
You're not too smooth with your leg aids, are you?
I don't want to canter today.
I definitely want more and better hay.
You know how everyone blames everything on that little chestnut in the north stall? Actually, it was me that kicked the old gray mare and chewed up Bingo's fly mask and pooped in the water trough. So whadya gonna do about it?
You don't look too good in those yellow pants.
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Post by Big Tee© on Mar 19, 2003 11:05:32 GMT -5
Don't forget the foot.......she may have an abscess. Poke around the hairline, and if there is a spongy, very warm spot, change from hosing to warm water soaking.
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Post by Skye Pilot on Mar 19, 2003 11:19:18 GMT -5
Poor Charm, she may have just been playing too hard....... but I would baby her and check her out real good! Cool wrap or hosing to reduce swelling may help....
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Post by CC on Mar 19, 2003 11:39:25 GMT -5
Abscess or gravel?? Carambi had quite a bit of swelling in a hind leg with a gravel once.
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Post by niaru on Mar 19, 2003 12:31:31 GMT -5
Abcess? I didn't think of that. Hmmm I'll have to check that hoof again, Big Tee. But wouldn't she be very lame on it then? I just went to the barn and the swelling has gone down but the pastern is still not like the other one. It's not as hot as yesterday either. Now she looks just a little stocked-up right above the fetlock joint, to the outside. She looks fine walking, but she seems to stand with this foot c-o-cked more often than the other one. I hosed it with cooold water and slapped some nitrofurazone on it, I didn't wrap because she was going back outside. (it's so nice and sunny out today!) I'll go back in a few hours to hose it again, and see how she is at the trot in the indoor. It does look much better than yesterday. But she has those long sloping pasterns and I think I am now paranoid that it could be more than just a scratch...like a bad sprain... I will wrap her for the night anyway. I didn't give her anything other than carrots  and haven't called the vet. I will if she gets worse or if it doesn't get better in a few days. Thanks everyone for bearing with me!! |
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Post by Amy on Mar 19, 2003 12:52:05 GMT -5
Nothing new to suggest just wanted you to know I've got my fingers crossed that it's no biggie!
Keep us updated.
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Post by Big Tee© on Mar 19, 2003 14:05:26 GMT -5
No, niaru, not necessarily. The thing about an abscess is that IF it is high - ie: going to blow out the heel, or hairline - the fetlock will swell, and the swelling will go up and down, and may radiate up and mimic incipient problems with the lower portion of the suspensory apparatus. The last one I dealt with (remember how NOT to treat an abscess), Rambo came up slightly sore, puffy ankle, and hot around the sesamoids. That swelling and heat abated with ice water in the whirlpool boots, and just when I thought he was getting better, he went three-legged lame. A few days of that, and I am still using ice in the boots, and he is getting worse, then BOOM it blew out and he was sound. BUT, do not rule out other options first. It could be almost anything else as well, from sesamoiditis to strains.
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Post by Lynne on Mar 19, 2003 16:26:17 GMT -5
Geesh, Niaru! That really stinks! I'm sure that it is nothing major. Actually, I just plain INSIST that it is nothing major. You can tell her I said so. That should fix it.
Seriously, I have no advice other than what's already been said. But do keep us posted! We're pulling for you here in Kentucky. No, pulling is bad word...we're rooting for you here in Kentucky!
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Post by niaru on Mar 19, 2003 17:28:26 GMT -5
Thanks Lynne  Charm isn't lame. I trotted her for Kmmom who didn't notice anything different than before. I still put nitrofurazone on it and wrapped both hind legs. For my piece of mind. Big Tee I poked her all around the coronary band, around the pastern area, she didn't flinch. Yup, I remember the Rambo's whirlpool ;D I'll keep it in mind. I called the vet for an overall 'evaluation', he's coming on April 5th. Since he is also a chiropractor...I'm interested in what he has to say. |
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Post by Vida on Mar 19, 2003 17:31:08 GMT -5
Poop, hope it's nothing.
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Post by ZenRider on Mar 19, 2003 23:10:22 GMT -5
Does she kick the wall in her stall? My Zen used to do that a lot when I first got him and his hind pastern would stock up from it. Thankfully, he doesn't do that much if at all anymore and no more swelling.
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and haven't called the vet. I will if she gets worse or if it doesn't get better in a few days. 
