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Post by Lynne on Mar 16, 2003 14:50:11 GMT -5
So much for laid back spring feeling day. I was out on the kayak in the pond gazing at the horses and Tuchas (2 yr old donk) was breathing so hard that his head was bobbing up and down. The breathing looked like, well, it was more noticiable around the loin/flank area almost like a dog/cat breathing with a diaphragmatic hernia? Anyway, I got out and time his resp and came up with 60 in 30 seconds. His color seem ok and his crt is normal. His temp is 102. Any thoughts??? (this is Glenna's foal btw, for whatever that means) I called the vet. He said it sounded more respiratory than colic (no signs of colic really but he's a donk and they are so stoic). Yet there is no eye goo, no nasal discharge. He advised me to give banamine which I did but even though I can hit a horse vein almost 100 percent of the time I can never get a donk. I hit it and he movied and I ended out having to give it IM. I'm gonna watch him for a couple hours and then play it by ear. Oh, I did notice this sort of breathing yesterday but he had been playing hard with Buttwiper so I blew it off  I also noticed a loose stool yesterday but I saw him pass a normal lumpkin earlier today. Any thoughts you guys? Ug...... |
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Post by Lynne on Mar 16, 2003 16:01:32 GMT -5
It's been a little over an hour since the banamine. He seems a bit "sleepy" but his breathing is still so darn hard adn rapid. He rocks forward and backword as he breathes. You can't hear it, no wheezing, its just really rapid. When I listen to his chest I hear "whosh, whoosh, whoosh" and I guess its just his brething I am hearing? Do equinnials get heart murmurs etc.? If you watch him, other than the rocking and the flaring nostrils, most of the movement of the breathing is just above where his hind leg meets his barrel?
Ug ug ug
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Post by Kat on Mar 16, 2003 16:21:30 GMT -5
but could he have Anhidrosis? (where they are unable to sweat) Or he coudl just be fighting a virus? I dunno. Gosh, thats a stumper..... Let us know what the vet says. Poor guy....
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Post by adcooper on Mar 16, 2003 16:46:37 GMT -5
Oh, rats! Darn, I wish I knew something about equine health. Is there anything different in his feed? Grazing in a different place? New plants emerging? I wonder if it could be an allergic reaction to something. I gotta run right now, but I'll check back later. good thoughts for you!
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Post by chrisnstar on Mar 16, 2003 17:12:17 GMT -5
To me, this is a case of get the donk tothe vet or get the vet to the donk... that's very high respiration. How's his heart rate??? I'd want to have some blood drawn and do a CBC to look for infection....
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Post by Lynne on Mar 16, 2003 19:53:42 GMT -5
The vet just left. By the time he got here Tuchas's resp was still ridiculously high and very far back in the abdomen? Like he was trying to reduce pain by shorter breaths? His color was good but even with the banamine in him his heart rate was still 70 bpm which is pret high.
We tried to hit all fronts. We tubed him (donks are VERY stoic about colic and don't always show the normal horse signs..) and he was very gassy. We hit him hard with two types of antibiotics as a just in case and we pulled blood that we'll send off if he is still so abnormal in the morning. Meanwhile, I guess I'll get up every couple hours through the night to check on him. Poor little guy.
Hopefully all will go well.. Thanks for the thoughts, advice and well wishes.
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Post by niaru on Mar 16, 2003 19:58:01 GMT -5
Poor Tuchas! I hope he gets better through the night, and I hope you get some rest too...
Good thoughts going your way Lynne!
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Post by ZenRider on Mar 16, 2003 21:16:21 GMT -5
First, what is it about Sunday's??? Can't really add anything, except it could very well be a virus of some sort. Your Vet is coming out tomorrow, right? Not to scare you, but it sounds suspiciously like that mystery virus that hit the owner's half of my barn last November/December. The Vet that did come out did treat it, but not aggressively, until the one mare died. (Our regular Vet was at a seminar in Florida at the time.) Then he got more aggressive with antibiotics, etc.
Will be hoping it's not serious and just one of those colics that have no real origin and go away just that quick. Curb chains a jingling.
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Post by chrisnstar on Mar 16, 2003 23:23:11 GMT -5
Oh golly, poor little guy.. hope the meds work and he will be OK. Prayers going up for him!
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Post by Lynne on Mar 17, 2003 6:07:12 GMT -5
Well, we've made it through the night. I got up and checked him several times. His breathing seems to be back to normal but he hasn't passed the oil yet. I've got about thirty minutes here to decide if I am going in to school today or not.......
Thanks again for the advice and well wishes.
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Post by chrisnstar on Mar 17, 2003 9:02:20 GMT -5
Still thinking "get better" thoughts for the guy!!!
chris
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Post by Linda on Mar 17, 2003 14:36:38 GMT -5
Lynne, How is he doing? I had no idea that donkey's coliced--I had only heard that in reference to horses. Wow--the things we learn here. Linda
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Post by niaru on Mar 17, 2003 15:58:41 GMT -5
I guess Lynne went to school, uh?
I too wonder how the little donk is today...Hopefully he's over whatever it was that caused this!
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Post by Lynne on Mar 17, 2003 16:31:59 GMT -5
Well, he seems to be doing much better. His respiration is still a little high but NOTHING like yesterday. I have never seen anything like it. I did go to school so I could worry there all day....but he seems stable anyway. I can tell he passed at least some of the oil because his little hiny is oily, though not very.
I'm gonna time his resp. again in about an hour.
I'll keep you guys posted and thanks for being there.
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Post by Vida on Mar 17, 2003 17:13:17 GMT -5
Geez Lynne, hope the little guy is better. Your vets must love you - I bet you alone finance them!
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I also noticed a loose stool yesterday but I saw him pass a normal lumpkin earlier today.
