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Post by plainbrownwrapper on Jul 1, 2009 6:18:06 GMT -5
The last few days it seems in the late evening the flies are biting hard[make sense?] Anyway, I have fly sheets/mask and spray and have spritzed w/ off. My boy has come up w/ tiny welts mostly on his shoulders and lower neck. I have bathed him w/ absorbine to soothe him . It just seems nothing is deterring these flies. I hesitate to use vineger as he is a light bay and I would rather not have an orange horse!
What are you using???
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Post by alisonph on Jul 1, 2009 6:50:00 GMT -5
Are they stable flies or the sheep/horse/deer flies?
If they are stable flies, go to Home Depot or Lowe's and get the "Rescue" fly trap and hang them in the barn.
If they are sheep/deer/horse flies, go online and google the "biting fly trap" that is very easy to build and works GREAT!
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Post by plainbrownwrapper on Jul 1, 2009 11:33:44 GMT -5
Thanks, I do have fly traps in the barn area and spray the stalls when horses are out. It seems to help some. They are not deer flies but are about the same size and bite the @#$$##@ out of ya!We have a relatively new Home Depot . I will check into the fly traps.
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Post by fancyhorse on Jul 1, 2009 18:47:17 GMT -5
Same thing, fly sheets, fly mask, spray....have you thought about those fly predators? What about that stuff called "spot on", whats about the feed through fly stuff?
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Post by windycity on Jul 2, 2009 10:22:00 GMT -5
Just to clarify, are you spraying with the Off we use on people? I think it's toxic for horses. Maybe the welts are a reaction to that as opposed to actualy bites??? Maybe? Ot of it's just neck and shoulders is his sheet rubbing/irritating him somehow? The flies are horrible!! One bit me the other day on the leg and it was so sore and itchy for a couple days.
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Post by plainbrownwrapper on Jul 2, 2009 11:41:13 GMT -5
I know the welts are from the flies . I think they land and bite where the sheet doesn't cover [shoulder area] I spritz the off on my hands and rub. I am desperate.
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Post by windycity on Jul 2, 2009 12:04:57 GMT -5
I totally hear ya' on the desparation front. I'm ready to just wrap mine up in bubble wrap.
But if the Off has DEET in it then I know it's toxic. So be really careful. Sometimes you have to just try different kinds of sprays to find the best one for your situation.
I have a fly sheet that has a neck attachment that will cover the shoulder/neck area...maybe you can find something like that? Mine also has bug repellant in it (It's a Rambo) and it really seems to work. It was pricy but seems to be working.
I know they are so awful and making our buddies miserable right now!!
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Post by sarafina on Jul 2, 2009 12:49:30 GMT -5
try SWAT. I swear by it. I smear it all over fifi's face, throat, lower neck and right around the girth and teat area. It keeps the bloodsuckers off up in our parts. those really annoy her. i also second the fly sheet idea.
Steer clear of the human bug repellent for animals.
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Post by plainbrownwrapper on Jul 3, 2009 6:05:38 GMT -5
I am a bit smarter than to use DEET. He is wearing a fly sheet and a mask. I hesitate to wrap him up anymore as it is hitting in the high 90's here and somedays he is sweating w/ the fly sheet on.I am just looking for away to keep him comfy. It seems the flies are worse in the gloaming.I have spritzed on my hands the Skintastic Off and rubbed over his shoulder and tips of his ears. I actually didn't think about swat. I guess I haven't seen it on the shelves and that could be why.
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Post by windycity on Jul 3, 2009 10:07:27 GMT -5
Well, that's good you know about the Deet thing! You just kept saying Off without the skintastic part. So, I think we both just wanted to make sure. You never know what people don't know or aren't aware of. It's not a judgement thing...this is just a great place to learn new stuff and sometimes you don't know what you don't know. So, sorry we kept railing on the Deet thing...just wanted to be sure. Plus maybe now someone who didn't know that will have learned it. So, it's all good. Didn't mean to imply you were being dumb or anything. Is the skintastic pretty much the same as avon skin so soft? Because I'm sure you've heard that skin so soft is a sort of random horsie miracle bug spray out there. I read on a Chronicle of the Horse forum thread about people mixing that in with their other sprays. I use Endure. I also heard of one on that other thread called Espree that is a concentrate and you can mix with water to make as strong as you want. Lots of people here have said they keep theirs in during the day and do night time turn out as well as an alternative on the hot buggy days. I board so I don't have that option really.
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Post by Smay on Jul 6, 2009 13:06:09 GMT -5
Really about the DEET? I never heard that it was poisonous for horses? I've actually sprayed it on mine a few times when I was doing myself DURING a ride, and the horse fly spray wasn't affecting the mosquitoes IN THE LEAST. I've never had any adverse reaction from it. None at all. And this is on sensitive TBs, ponies and morgans... haha
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Post by guiltygirl on Jul 6, 2009 18:48:55 GMT -5
I will fess up too i have used OFF on my QH after I sprayed myself. Is it really toxic to my horse yet I can spray it on my 2 year old grandson? Maybe it is toxic if the horse is going to be slaughtered and used for human consumption. Seriously, I am just curious how it can be safe to spray on people and not the horse? I haven't used it much but when I did it does keep the mosquitos away. I also spray myself with horse fly spray products if it is really buggy out
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Post by fancyhorse on Jul 17, 2009 15:49:29 GMT -5
I've used OFF and it works better then any fly spray i've ever used!
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Post by johnnysauntie on Jul 17, 2009 16:01:00 GMT -5
Okay, this from a study by Cornell:
Animals topically exposed to Deet have developed dermal and ocular reactions. Dermal effects including erythema, desquamation and scarring in rabbits (9) and profuse sweating, irritation and exfoliation in horses (Blume et al, 1971) (10) have been reported following repeated applications of Deet at concentrations of 50 percent or greater. Direct ocular application of either diluted (30 or 40 percent Deet) or undiluted Deet in rabbits has produced edema, tearing, conjunctivitis, pus and clouding in the eyes (3, 9).
Repeated dermal application to horses produced hypersteatosis, an overactivity of the selacious glands, when the solution of Deet was 15% or higher (10). *** So, I'll not be using anything with DEET on my guy. The ocular issue is worrying - since it would be pretty easy for spray to get into a horse's eyes.
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Post by easychoice on Aug 7, 2009 20:49:48 GMT -5
Here's another worry... Tony gets shoulder rubs from the fly sheets, what do you all use to prevent it?
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