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Post by ZenRider on Mar 6, 2003 23:45:13 GMT -5
Thanks Michelle, though I'm having a feeling, you're stuff is too skinny for me. Heck, some of my stuff is too skinny for me. LOL I'm finding Jackets tough, because of the nature of my job I have muscles and a lot of the jackets are made for people with skinny, skinny arms. Sigh. Gonna be fun. Am hoping to find some deals at the Rolex Kentucky though. Fingers crossed.
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Post by Einstein on Mar 6, 2003 23:48:10 GMT -5
Well, I have broad shoulders, not too much muscles, and my big down fall in coats is...no boobs I always have to have them altered in the chest department. Very sad. No boobs and long arms. Yup, I'm a conformation nightmare myself ;D
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Post by ZenRider on Mar 6, 2003 23:55:44 GMT -5
That's all right, my conformation wouldn't win any halter classes either. :coffee:
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Post by Johnnie on Mar 7, 2003 0:26:47 GMT -5
For a schooling show, you don't even have to have a jacket. You can wear a white polo and light (white, beige, grey, etc) breeches for all 3 phases if you wanted. This is a schooling show right? You can check the show bill if you want to be sure, but I'm pretty certain that most schooling shows are like this. Last year we wore thermals under our polos whether they were short or long sleeved and no one said anything. At one show, when it was 19, they let us show in whatever we wanted----multi-layers!! Even though it says, no half chaps. I have worn my half chaps at a shows before..ssshhh...even a dressage show. I have the Ariat Crowne half chaps, and they look like tall boots when used with paddock boots, complete with the little tabs. My tall boots are a little too short and big in the foot, so I don't like to wear them much. What size jacket are you? I have one that I can't wear, but it's big. I had to get it big for the boobs and I was going to have it taken in down below, but the next time I tried it on, I realized that it's really not tall enough for me. I've been thinking of selling it cheaply..lol.
OH yeah, I almost forgot. You don't need a dressage saddle for dressage. I've seen riders in Prelim not using a dressage saddle. It's no biggie, not even at registered shows.
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Post by ZenRider on Mar 7, 2003 9:40:18 GMT -5
It says PROPER ATTIRE REQUIRED! So no polo shirts for Dressage. I'm thinking they are running this as a step above a schooling show. Though this will be a schooling show for us. I'm just hoping Zen behaves well enough we aren't asked to leave, huh SMay? :hahaha: I'm thinking hunt coats are acceptable at this level for dressage though.
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Post by ZenRider on Mar 7, 2003 9:44:27 GMT -5
Oh, and if I remember right, for some reason hunt coat sizes for me are 16's even though normally I wear a 14 shirt. That is to fit the shoulder, like you, I'll probably have it altered to fit the rest of me. Sigh.
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Post by Smay on Mar 7, 2003 9:48:16 GMT -5
You have to be pretty bad to be excused! Winny bucked and reared to get excused! hahahaha He was just so excited. He doesn't have any experience being around other horses that are being ridden...he pays so much attention to how he can impress the mares, that he gets too fired up. The only thing I need to to with him is start taking him to group lessons or something, so he can get used to riding amongst a crowd! I'm hot on the lead of a pony club member who may start taking him to mounted meetings since she doesn't have a horse at the moment! Hope this works out!
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Post by leeann on Mar 7, 2003 21:53:39 GMT -5
Combined tests are a good way to get introduced to eventing without the stress of x/c. One thing of note: you may not have your tests read as you can at a dressage show. You must ride them from memory, so be well versed with the test. I start my beginning event riders off by doing a couple of schooling dressage shows, then maybe some hunter shows (you can do lots of courses for not much money), then combined tests, then an actual event. We have typically schooled cross country a couple of times before someone will go to a horse trial, so the cross country is not completely new with the added stress of it being a competition. What works best for you will depend on your experience and comfort with being on center stage! When I did my first event I'd never even jumped a real cross country jump and I can remember thinking in the start box: "If I throw up now, I won't have to go". Once they counted me down and off I went it was a complete blast! That was back in the days of Pre-training, and I had a picnic table, complete with a red-checked tablecloth and plastic ware stapled to the table to jump. The euphoria after going around was so great I was hooked. You'll find eventing people to be really helpful and friendly, if you're at an event/combined test don't hesitate to ask for help--someone will always step up. For a schooling show you should be turned out neat and tidy--hair in net, no flapping ends anywhere on you or your horse, clothing should be plain and neat. Typically the show will state dress code. For USEA events you need a dark coat (same one can be used for dressage and stadium), light colored breeches for dressage/stadium, light or white shirt with stock or ratcatcher for dressage/stadium, and either tall boots or jodpher boots (no half chaps), and an approved helmet (there is a new rule this year about ASTM standards, so read the rules). For x/c you will need breeches, boots (again, no half chaps), approved helmet, crash vest, medical armband, and a polo shirt with long or short sleeves (no sleeveless allowed). Anything pretty much goes equipment wise for x/c, for stadium keep it simple, keep it plain, legal snaffle for dressage, clean, neat tack, no whip until Nov 2003. For stadium you may use a jumping bat (I can't remember the legal length off hand), you need your medical armband, and you may use a bit other than a snaffle. No standing martingales allowed, ever. Running are allowed for stadium and x/c. Longeing only in side reins, no vienna, sliding side reins, Pessoa rigs, etc. Long lining is premitted. Only the rider may exercise the horse (this really kind of includes longeing--if it is deemed your trainer is training the horse while longeing you're outa there) from 3 PM the day before the competition begins. A groom may hack the horse on a loose rein. Wait until the stadium course and x/c course are open for inspection before walking them. You can get eliminated for walking it prior to it being officially open, you can also have a nasty surprise that the course has been amended between the time you walked it and the time you rode it. Walk your cross country course (and stadium) enough times that you can tell someone which way you go and which fences are on your track. Knowing the track is more important than remembering individual fences, as long as the fence numbers add up! I do a run through in my mind- 1 is this, 2 is that, bear right, 3 is this, strong left, 4 is the oxery thing, up the hill over the ramp (5) down the hill whoohoo steady for the water #6, etc, after I walk the course, then I walk it without the map, if that goes without a hitch I don't walk it a 3rd time, if I have any hesitation, I'll walk again. If you go off course in dressage don't worry about it, it's not the end of the world. If you go off course in stadium and realize it rectify your error before jumping the next fence or you'll be eliminated. Ditto x/c. Backtracking is preferable to going home early! Have fun, take a beer (or drink of preference) for when you're done, and take them time to introduce yourself to the competitors that go before you and after you--you'll make friends really quickly!
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Post by Johnnie on Mar 7, 2003 22:14:01 GMT -5
Our schooling shows must be super laidback compared to you guys. You can have your test read and get away with polos in all phases. Maybe the dress part is because it's Texas and the heat in summer is unbearable.
If you use a crop for Stadium, there is a limit as to the length of it- 30" I believe. You cannot hit your horse more than 3 times at one jump, no hitting in front of the shoulder -not that you would do it, but just so you know.
HHmm..thinking..what else.... If you are going to do XC, don't get too close to the jumps if you hack out around the course the day before or morning of the event (we are allowed to do this, maybe you guys aren't). I can't remember the distance that you have to keep from them. Again though, maybe that's a Texas thing, since our rules seem to be different.
Make sure you listen for the the whistle, bell, car horn, whatever, before starting in dressage or stadium. Don't forget to pass through the flags to start and stop your time in stadium. Red on the right always.
Get your groom to carry a bucket with a bottle of water, a moist sponge, and a dry towel out with you when you warm up. That way you have something to drink before you enter the dressage arena, if you need it, and you can clean off your boots and wipe your horse's mouth/feet/white spots/whatever.
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Post by ZenRider on Mar 7, 2003 23:40:14 GMT -5
Eek, now I'm remembering why I liked Barrel Racing. Simple course, Jeans, western shirt, boots and could even wear halfchaps. OK, and they never had an AMBULANCE Fee. Yikes! Must say, that's my greatest fear, getting lost on course. But this outing will mostly be to see if it's something Zen could settle into and do. OK, and me too. I do have a friend here that can help me figure out what I'm supposed to be doing and wearing. Wouldn't be surprised if some of her students ride in this as well. OK, the kids will probably be riding in higher levels than me, but that's OK, they are really good kids.
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Post by Einstein on Mar 8, 2003 0:02:30 GMT -5
Zen, I know how you feel, but I almost never go off coarse and I'm 110% fanatic about it, so I walked my XC 3 times and practiced my dressage test in a "ring" in my living room on foot ;D My huge fear was a fashion faux pas and I did it ;D
Eventer #1: "Yup, tht's a H/J"
Eventer #2: "How do you know that?"
Eventer #1: "Look at the EAR NETS on that horse, only a H/J would do that!"
Hehehehe, but at least no one laughed at me. Everyone was so nice!!
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Post by Johnnie on Mar 8, 2003 0:37:05 GMT -5
Ear Bunnies..hee hee...I l-o-f-f them really. I am going to hide one from my trainer, and use it when she's not around. I wonder if they make them in lime green.
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Post by Einstein on Mar 8, 2003 0:39:07 GMT -5
If not, you could buy a white one and use RIT dye and make it lime green
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Post by Johnnie on Mar 8, 2003 0:57:24 GMT -5
Oh Michelle, you are evil :smirk: . My trainer will now have you on a hit list..lol.
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Post by Skye Pilot on Mar 10, 2003 8:13:28 GMT -5
Wow LeeAnn..... I am printing off your reply..... I know I am going to do a fashion mistake..... I think I will start with green as grass schooling shows in dressage and jumping schooling show this year because I don't feel I am ready for training level eventing yet.... nor is Red. He gets wired in crowds... back to the days of racing!!! I think we will be trailering to shows and not do anything for the first few times to build both of our confidence.... I put him in games at the barn at Christmas and it was like we fell into a black hole that took me a month to get him mentally back!!! Passing a batton on horse back at deadout speed wasnt' good for him.... in relay race
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