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Post by Skye Pilot on Mar 5, 2003 19:24:15 GMT -5
I am starting out and for the first time I would like to show. I have been reading all the different clubs and organizations.....blah, blah, blah..... All I have ever done was be a horse mom for my daughter in 4-H....aka slave groom. Where do you start in eventing? Do I just watch for a year... just drag the guys around to get them use to the ring.... What rules, clubs do I need to register with to show....... ?  I hope these aren't silly questions. |
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Post by Johnnie on Mar 5, 2003 20:15:36 GMT -5
With Eventing, you probably want to start out with schooling shows. The good thing about schooling shows is that with most of them, you don't have to be a member of any organization to show at them unless you want to go for points. To find schooling shows, if you don't know of any, you can do it the long way and go to the USEA website and find your area, then go to your area webpage, and check out the links. Most places that have registered shows will have several schooling shows throughout the year.
Generally, schooling shows start with Green As Grass (GAG) or Elementary level. This is just 18"-2' jumps and a walk/trot dressage test. The next level is Beginner Novice or Pre-Novice which is 2'6 jumps and a walk/trot/canter dressage test. Novice is next with 2'11 jumps and sometimes has the same test as Beginner Novice...basically walk/trot/canter, but they are looking for MORE..more submission, connection, fluidity, etc...
The rules are at the USAE site under Eventing. I can give you a brief rundown. For unregistered shows, you can get by with a polo shirt tucked in and light colored breeches all the way through. No chaps or half chaps, and any certified helmet will work. You cannot use a dressage whip in dressage (until december of this year), but you can wear spurs. No speaking or clucking to your horse. Carrying a whip will get you eliminated, speaking/clucking/kissing will get you a -2 the first time. You can have someone read you the test. If you go off course, I believe it is a -2 the first time as well, but I'm not sure about that. I haven't done that one yet. You have to be sure your bit is legal for dressage, and have it checked beforehand. No martingales of any kind can be used, and I don't believe you can warm up with them either. No leg wraps or boots for the horse either. HHmm..I seem to be rattling on...lol. If you have any specific questions, or just want me to keep rattling, let me know.. ;D
As soon as our greenies will go over 2' jumps at home, we take them out at GAG. In GAG dressage, forward is the most important thing (along with staying in the arena). In stadium, just get from one side of the jump to the other without hitting a rail or falling off and you've done good. Same thing goes for XC, except those rails don't come down. The most important thing is to have fun. If you don't know something, ask. Eventers are very nice, friendly, and helpful people.
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Post by Skye Pilot on Mar 5, 2003 20:45:51 GMT -5
Thanks Johnnie...... this helped so much... we are trying to organize a bunch of us in our area with a group but we are so spread out over about 3 counties. I wished there was someone in my area interested in doing the same type of riding. I have my trainer, but there is no time to just sit and chat... she has lots of students. Thanks again....  |
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Post by ZenRider on Mar 5, 2003 23:13:11 GMT -5
Well, they are having a Mini Event and Combined Test in Barrington Hills and this is the way they have it listed for theirs. Training Cominded Test: Dressage: current USA Equestrian Training Level Test C Stadium: About 12 jumps not to exceed 3'3" Novice Mini Event Dressage: current USA Equestrian Novice Test C Cross Country: about 15 jumps not to exceed 2'11" less than 1 mile Stadium: about 12 jumps not to exceed 2'11" Pre Novice Mini Event Dressage: current USA Equestrian Novice Test C Cross Country about 12 jumps not to exceed 2' less than 1/2 mile. Stadium: about 12 jumps not to exceed 2' Beginner Combined Test Dressage 1996 USPC Walk Trot test 2 Stadium: about 8 jumps not to exceed 18" I'm really thinking about trying the Beginner Combined test.  After all, we can walk, trot just fine and he should be over this lameness episode by then. No worries about leads, cause it's a walk trot test.  Last year I jumped him 2 feet a couple of times, so I think we'd be just fine for the stadium. Biggest concern with be him bopping around looking at everything. :horsie: Anyone have the 1996 USPC Walk Trot test 2 ?? |
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Post by Johnnie on Mar 6, 2003 0:50:27 GMT -5
Zen- Their Pre-novice is only 2" bigger than Beginner? (Ok, so I posted after midnight and I will leave my inability to count in the message..lol) I wonder why they have those 2 so close. Oh well. I think you should go. I went digging for an old test to copy for you, but it seems our area uses the USDF Intro Test 1 and I'm not sure if that is the same test. I then went to the Pony Club site, but you have to order them there, so I'm not of any help. I am still looking though. I know Ali will have them and I can get them tomorrow for you, at the barn. Good luck Zen and Sue! You guy will have so much fun!!! If you guys have any other questions that maybe I CAN answer ( :  , let me know. |
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Post by Lisann on Mar 6, 2003 7:01:18 GMT -5
I would like to event, but I don't know of anything around here  My Ay-Rab mare is good under saddle - the dressage wouldn't be a problem. We're showing over fences in a couple weeks, tho' that would definately be our weak point. Johnnie - the pre-novice is 6" higher than beginner (2'=24") |
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Post by Skye Pilot on Mar 6, 2003 7:39:17 GMT -5
I have a collection of tests.... all these organizations.... it is so confusing.... will look through them and see if I have the 1996 USPC Walk Trot test 2..... I have the AHSA and the USDF test right here.... Zenrider where is Barrington Hills? I am heading downstate Saturday to look at horse trailers at the Michigan Horse Expo..... if it is close maybe I should check it out.
Lisann I am in the boonies too..... and trying to get as much information from the internet and ask people like Zenrider and Johnnie.... Where are you located? I will pass what I find over to you. I am trying to find someone in my area that is interested in eventing too... my pipe dream is that my husband will think that it is cool and start riding Diego!!! :loon:
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Post by CC on Mar 6, 2003 7:50:57 GMT -5
Sue,
Are you in Michigan? i am so bad at keeping track of where everyone lives!
Anyway, i believe there is a MCTA (Michigan Combined Training Association). Try going to the USEA website and check the links or a website.
I was lost as to finding unrecognized competitions until i joined my local CTA (combined training association). I also volunteer and jump judge which helps make great contacts in the sport and allows you to watch and learn. Our CTA also puts out an unrecognized omnibus each year that lists the local competitions.
You can also just go to some schooling dressage shows or jumper shows at first and gradually work up to a horse trial.
Good luck...you'll love eventing!!
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Post by Skye Pilot on Mar 6, 2003 8:04:18 GMT -5
Yeah I am in Northern Lower Peninsula... where it is -3 degrees again this morning.... it would be really great to have a hint of spring here!!!!   I know I have to try to remember where everyone is too! and I see we are almost had a 100 members!!! CC where are you at...... Michigan? and your sister is a piper.... I may know her! Tell her that after a couple of beers before I dance at a ceilligh I ended up doing a 5 step Highland fling (no such thing)..... thanks to the piper they saved my butt!!! I was nervious......  she'll get a kick out of that! Sorry gals and guy if I forget where you all are... of course Brian, we all know where you are!!! Ok.... I found the TEAM (was Michigan Combined training) site for Michigan and USEA..... there is also a Glass-Ed site for dressage but it is schooling shows like green as grass.... I don't want to join too many organizations and get myself committed and have less time training and practicing..... hummmm |
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Post by CC on Mar 6, 2003 8:31:29 GMT -5
I'm in Maryland. And to confuse things even more...our local CTA is also called MCTA (Maryland...CTA).
Glad you found it. I hope Michigan has as many local horse trials as MD does. I could compete very weekend if i wanted!
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Post by Lisann on Mar 6, 2003 12:23:45 GMT -5
I am about 1 hr N/NW of St. Louis, MO. It's supposed to be in the 40's here today ;D
Sue - I grew up in the Northern LP of MI. I went to college at Tech, so I've known cold and snow! I sometimes wonder what my MI-bred horses think of MO. Although, the 2 y/o was only in MI until he was a weanling.
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Post by Skye Pilot on Mar 6, 2003 15:53:09 GMT -5
Lisann we're up in the TC area.... Lake Michigan is 1/2 frozen this year which is helping to keep the snow squalls down. I am so sick of the cold.... it is usually starting to get towards 40s. The news today said Record-shattering cold temperatures threaten to freeze massive Lake Superior's surface for the first time in more than two decades. I think my MI bred horses are thinking that MO would me a great place to be!!!! Most night temps are -10 degrees or colder.. :bang: :bang: And this is March??? |
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Post by Skye Pilot on Mar 6, 2003 16:31:40 GMT -5
I don't know if this is 1996....or 2003 doesn't say but it looks like they use the USDF test... www.oregonponyclubs.atfreeweb.com/intro_2.gifalso found this off chronical site: Is it 1996 Intro Level, Test #2? If so here it is right out the the USDF book. 1. A Enter Working trot rising continue to C 2.C Turn Left H-E-K-A-F-B COntinue in working trot 3. B Circle left 20m 4. B Straight ahead to C C Develop medium walk 5. H-X-F Free walk F Develop medium walk (Coefficient: 2) 6. A Working trot rising, continue to E 7. E Circle Right 20m E straight ahead 8. M-X-K Change rein working trot rising 9. A Down Centerline X Halt, though medium walk. Salute Collective marks: Gaits (freedom and regulatity) (Coefficient: 1) Impulsion (desire to move forward, relaxation of the back) (Coefficient: 2) Submission (Coefficient: 3) Riders Position (Coefficient: 3) |
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Post by ZenRider on Mar 6, 2003 23:33:26 GMT -5
Not sure what you consider close, but Barrington Hills is a bit West of Chicago. If I remember right, finding this place is kinda fun.  But the place itself is really cool. The biggest difference, besides fence height is the Begginer, is only a combined test, no cross country, and the other has a short cross country course. Of course, now I have to ask, who can I borrow a jacket and shirt from? Ummm boots that fit my calves that aren't as thin as they used to be. Though I think the boots just shrunk, yeah, that's gotta be it. :loon: Oh and at this level do I need a dressage saddle, or can I get by with my Wintec All Purpose for that? Do I need the fancy Dressage outfit, or can I get by with the jacket and breeches. Ooo, will I need white breeches? Suddenly, this is starting to sound expensive.  Am hoping that jump saddle I bought on eBay fits and will use it for the jumping for sure if it does. ;D If not, the Wintec will definitely do for that. So many things, so little money. now where's that horsie with the dollar tied to it. :horsie: =dollar |
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Post by Einstein on Mar 6, 2003 23:38:04 GMT -5
Zen, email me, I have a ton of stuff that I don't wear. I'm not showing now anyway. I only have a pair of 11 year old Vogels that have a large hole in the back. I ordered new boots, but hate them. I loff my old ones, so tat's no help, sorry ;D
If we're close in size and you want any of it, I'll send it out. I do have a pair of white britches from my junior days, but they are very small (dry cleaner shrunk them some how, and now they are too snug and way too short!!) and are tinged red for me falling off into red clay/dirt. I don't think you'd want those :tongue:
Hope you're tall ;D
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After all, we can walk, trot just fine and he should be over this lameness episode by then. No worries about leads, cause it's a walk trot test. 
Last year I jumped him 2 feet a couple of times, so I think we'd be just fine for the stadium. Biggest concern with be him bopping around looking at everything. :horsie: 
, let me know.
My Ay-Rab mare is good under saddle - the dressage wouldn't be a problem. We're showing over fences in a couple weeks, tho' that would definately be our weak point.
But the place itself is really cool. 
Am hoping that jump saddle I bought on eBay fits and will use it for the jumping for sure if it does. ;D If not, the Wintec will definitely do for that. So many things, so little money. now where's that horsie with the dollar tied to it. :horsie: =dollar