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Post by juliab on Sept 12, 2008 14:00:32 GMT -5
Something interesting that I learned when talking to my vet today about Poppy. I told him I was giving Poppy 1 gram of bute in the morning and one gram in the evening each day and wanted to make sure that was correct and he told me there have been numerous studies showing that to be the correct dose for a horse of her weight and that any increase past that actually has no beneficial effect. I thought that was good to know  |
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Post by animaldoc on Sept 12, 2008 15:36:47 GMT -5
That's the dose I would use for chronic cases, but preoperatively we often give 2-3g once and then drop back to 1g twice a day, so higher doses are used with beneficial effects sometimes in acute cases.
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Post by kelly on Sept 13, 2008 9:26:13 GMT -5
To piggyback off of this topic, I give 2 of my horses bute before the farrier comes so they're more comfortable. I give 2g the night before and 1g the morning of. Does that make sense or should I do something different?
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Post by Goalie on Sept 13, 2008 17:09:50 GMT -5
I'd be interested in knowing that too Kelly as my vet haas me give Billy 1 gr about 20 minutes before my farrier works on him.
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Post by tash on Sept 22, 2008 20:49:16 GMT -5
Kelly... Do your horses have trouble holding their legs up or something? Because your farrier shouldn't be taking off so much hoof that your horse is sore afterwards ? Julia.. I haven't read why Poppy needs bute everyday, but are you concerned about stomach ulcers? I hope Poppy is OK and nothing serious/longterm because I loffs her.  |
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Post by animaldoc on Sept 23, 2008 9:34:44 GMT -5
There are a lot of horses that live on 1-2g bute/day for much of their lives to be comfortable without any problems with their stomachs. IMO the ulcers that I see from bute are in horses that are otherwise ill- dehydrated, kidney disease, high doses, etc.
I don't pre-treat horses before farrier visits unless they have some arthritis, laminitis, etc that would make them sore if they held one foot up for a while.
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Post by kelly on Sept 23, 2008 10:48:31 GMT -5
Tash - Rock has scoliosis and gets very stiff and sore through his back. The bute takes the edge off so he's more comfortable holding the hind legs up. Jett has a completely severed extensor tendon that has healed as much as it's gonna. He has a hard time putting extra weight on that leg so he also needs a little comfort medicine.  Doc - do you think the 2g the night before and 1g the morning of the farrier visit is sufficient? Thanks! |
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Post by juliab on Sept 24, 2008 9:28:37 GMT -5
Tash: Poppy was on bute for sore feet due to a bad trim but she is now doing better and is no longer on it. Whenever I have a horse on bute or any other medication, I give them Stomach Soother and it really seems to help with tummy problems. Poppy has a great appetite and cleans up her grain and hay so I don't think she has ulcers. In fact, woe to any horse who gets between Poppy and her dinner Or even looks at her in a way she doesn't like when she is eating! She is a funny girl because she likes people at lot more than other horses. She will glare with the evil eye and pinned ears at another horse and then turn to me and give me the softest doe eyed look. I loffs her too! |
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Post by animaldoc on Sept 24, 2008 9:54:08 GMT -5
Doc - do you think the 2g the night before and 1g the morning of the farrier visit is sufficient? Thanks! If he seems comfy should be fine! |
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Post by tash on Sept 25, 2008 9:39:16 GMT -5
Cool, I understand now... Thanks for sharing guys |
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Post by doniakay on Oct 15, 2008 17:58:29 GMT -5
how do you guys give your bute. i have tried just crumbled in grain, mixed with molasses, ANY way i prepare she just plain wont take her grain. she is 29 yr old with arthritis and a bad right knee
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Post by Goalie on Oct 15, 2008 18:01:09 GMT -5
I mix Billys in with some applesauce and if worse comes to worse I will use the paste.
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Post by doniakay on Oct 15, 2008 18:36:46 GMT -5
thats how i give it in the applesauce. just wondered if there was an easier way
thanks
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Post by juliab on Oct 16, 2008 7:39:58 GMT -5
Have you tried the flavored and powdered form? My vet always makes sure I have some on hand. Right now I have apple flavor, but you can also get peppermint. It comes with a little scoop and one level scoop is one gram. I've never had a horse not eat it when mixed with grain.
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Post by racenomore on Oct 16, 2008 8:23:44 GMT -5
I had been giving Saint the apple flavor, which he gobbled (he eats whatever you put in his bucket). He has since gotten over the apple bute. I am getting some peppermint today and will try it next time. They also have alfalfa flavor.
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