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Post by Johnnie on Feb 27, 2003 19:29:57 GMT -5
Hey guys, please give me your honest opinions about this horse. Don't hold anything back. I have ridden a horse with this hip thing going on and he bucked when asked for a flying change, and was a little short strided on one side. After some chiro adjustments, he was fine. Miko, my friend's mare, has the same hip thing due to an injury in the start gate. Anyway, just look and read and if you think "you shouldn't touch this horse with a 10 ' pole no matter what the price", then say it. His ad explains more about him. buyhorses.com/scripts/hrsdetl.exe?1043715388&0I have a 4 yr old solid 17 hand gelding that has one hip bone lower than the other due to some old injury sustained years ago(does not seem to bother him, beautiful mover). He has done a lot of edurance rides and trail work in the past and would make an excellent trail mount or pet. Has done small jumps, loves it, and is coming along well on the flat. He needs a loving owner who will take good care of him. No reasonable offer refused, someone please give this horse a good home I'll try and attach a photo too.  |
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Post by Big Tee© on Feb 27, 2003 19:41:29 GMT -5
I think you are looking at trouble with those straight as a stick hocks, and his fetlocks look long and funky. I would be concerned also with them jumping him at 4 before even finishing him: he is gonna be one speed crazy fool. I am suspicious......the horse has a hole in him, a BIG one. They are pawning off their problems on some poor unsuspecting person. I am less concerned about the dropped hip, have raced horses with that, and no problems at all; of course, I am assuming that he HAS a dropped hip, and not something far worse
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Post by Lynne on Feb 27, 2003 19:44:26 GMT -5
Johnnie I am the WRONG person to ask! I would take him for that information alone! Send me the sore and needy, loney and neglected. Let me love them! I however am AT MY LIMIT ( I think my butt gets bigger to accomodate riding so many horses  ) As far as his usefulness etc. with such a condition ...I dunno  What would you want to do with him. NOW! Ws the "touch the horse with a ten foot pole" thing a joke??!! I laughed so hard as I looked at the picture and read that quote! Funny angle for that stair beam behind him!  |
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Post by Einstein on Feb 27, 2003 19:44:36 GMT -5
I'd say vet him and if the vet you know and trust says he's OK for your intended use, even with maintanence, go for it!
Nate's left femur is shorter then his right, hence his stifle issue, or his upward fixation of the patella. I have shown him and won all over the US and at Spruce Meadows. My point is, while he is not 100% sound, and I know there is an issue, he is sound for what I do, with proper care and maintanence. He'll never be a big grand prix jumper, but he's a kick butt A/O jumper, soon to be eventer ;D
Nate, when out of shape hurts more, and will buck through his changes. Also, he does it when he's medicated and in shape, I think it can be a learned response to pain, although he doesn't do it on coarse, with some speed, like in a jump off. He'll also "work out of it" as time goes on, like he thinks it should hurt, but it doesn't, so he stops being defensive.
For that price, I say give it a go, or send him up to me, I L-O-F-F him ;D
ALSO...I think the photo is bad, like it's taken down hill. Go see him, photos can be so decieving. Porter looked nothing like his! Try to ride him too, at least I would, although, for that price, I'd buy him and take the chance, but that maybe just me. Oh, and Lynne too ;D
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Post by Lynne on Feb 27, 2003 19:47:04 GMT -5
I'd be just like that poor unsuspecting person Big Tee mentioned ;D That IS me :hahaha:
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Post by Einstein on Feb 27, 2003 19:48:25 GMT -5
Me too Lynne!! ;D
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Post by Johnnie on Feb 27, 2003 20:00:18 GMT -5
Well, yes, I am looking for a horse, but there is another girl at my barn looking and this her price. I just liked him so much (I know, don't buy because they're cute) that I was considering him. I'm kind of with Lynne too...give me your poor, your needy, yada yada, please take my bank account, yada yada, you know the rest. Big Tee- thank you so much! After I posted I did notice those fence post legs...ssssoooo straight. I'm sure he was raced and, shame on me, but we do jump our 3-4 y/o TBs if they were raced. If they weren't we start jumping them at 4. Not any big stuff though. We're talking 18"-2'. I understand what you are saying about a big hole in his training though, and I too am wondering if there is not MUCH more to this. I think I recognize the e-mail address for his owner as someone we've bought a horse from before. I'm going to e-mail and see what she has to say. Thank you again! Lynne- no the pole wasn't a joke, but when I looked at the picture on the post, I got a giggle out of it too. Are you sure you don't need him? hee hee... Michelle- believe me, I hear what you're saying. For $800, if there is a chance he will be sound for a couple of years, he's worth it. Then he could go off and be a pet for my mom to feed and brush. The only thing is that if he is shorter on one side, he will get booted out of the Dressage arena at Events. No ifs, ands, or buts. You know me. I want to do some low level event stuff on him. If he could do Novice, I'd be happy which is only 2'11. Hell, at this point I'd be happy with Beginner Novice..lol. I think Nate kicks butt even if he is lopsided..  I will let you guys know what the owner says. I'm pretty sure it is the same girl we bought our Caspian from for $500. He is imported from England (registered of course) and they let him go for $500. I guess they needed the money. He's a great little horse. |
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Post by Johnnie on Feb 27, 2003 20:15:57 GMT -5
SO, does anyone want a really gorgeous trail horse? Andrea just got back to me (same girl, I think) and said that he would not work out for even lower level Eventing since he does take a short step every few steps. Oh well, it was worth a shot. He is gorgeous!!
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Post by Einstein on Feb 27, 2003 20:43:36 GMT -5
The only thing is that if he is shorter on one side, he will get booted out of the Dressage arena at Events. No ifs, ands, or buts. Do you mean noticably? How would anyone know if you or the vet didn't tell? I'm still confused as to why eventers don't wear ear bonnets?! They keep the cotton in the ears, keep the flys out AND look so neat-o ;D |
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Post by Johnnie on Feb 27, 2003 21:05:07 GMT -5
Sorry Michelle, I didn't explain that well. If the horse steps short on one side, then he will get booted. Does that make sense? If the judge can see it, she will boot you for unsoundness.
Eventers don't wear ear bunnies because we don't put cotton in their ears. It's also hard for your horse to pull off the name "Hell Bent for Leather" when he has ear bunnies on. Flies can't catch you at Mach 5 either..lol. I do think they look neat and was told, "he can wear it at the barn or schooling, but not at a show", so I passed on it.
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Post by Einstein on Feb 27, 2003 22:16:35 GMT -5
So it's a soundness thing, not a conformation issue? Makes sense.
Maybe Nate and I will start a new trend ;D I had a really cool one crocheted (sp?) for him! Naw, I'm picking colors to just blend in, I don't wanna stand out! Especially if I fall and have to go looking in the woods for my horse.
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Post by leeann on Feb 27, 2003 23:11:19 GMT -5
I rode a (little, chestnut) mare that had a seriously dropped hip, but she always traveled evenly.
She won through Preliminary level, eventing.
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Post by Johnnie on Feb 27, 2003 23:24:28 GMT -5
Correct, a soundness thing. I have heard of people getting a note from their vet stating that the horse wasn't truely off and it was just this horse's way of going, but to me that just seems a like a huge red flag saying "give me a big fat 2 for quality of gaits". We had an Arabian gelding that had a weird way of going. Our farrier said it was because he had one flat foot, so they shod him and gave him a little wedge on one side. From then on, he went true.
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What would you want to do with him.
