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Post by rellim on Feb 17, 2003 18:27:41 GMT -5
I have a Wintec 2000 with CAIR panels and adjustable gullets. Because of the gullets, it fit my high withered mare, as well as Max. And it is SOOO comfortable.
When I first got it, my daughter turned her nose up at it because it is synthetic. Then she rode in it. We both agree it is the 'recliner' of all saddles!
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Post by Katelyn on Feb 17, 2003 19:45:11 GMT -5
Hi, I use a Bates All Purpose with Cair and changeable gullets...and it is perfect for my high withered OTTB. He's VERY overly sensitive and will go lame over the slightest bump or pinch or bite! I've found that the gullet plates have really helped as he's gained weight and nice back muscles...no need to get a new saddle!! ;D AND its really comfortable, doesn't put my legs out in front of me, holds position nicely, and has velcro knee rolls for adjustment! -Katelyn
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Post by Katie Jo on Feb 18, 2003 1:06:37 GMT -5
Well I thought I'd pipe in... I ride many different horses, used to have just one saddle, my Lynn Palm Close Contact (its like 6 years old, I'm not sure what it really is, just that it says Lynn Palm). It works without special pads on my very heavy QH, a warmblood that I was riding in PA, and half of the myTB's. For the other half it requires a riser pad. Now I also have a Thorowgood. Which fits every one of the TB's, ahven't tried it on my QH's. I find that my saddles work, I just check for normal fitting, and if it needs it, I add the riser. I only paid $250 for the Thorowgood (technically it was used, but had never been USED, it was just bought and resold to a tack store), and paid $500 for my Lynn Palm. Add in my $25 riser pad and there's my totals for riding all 9 of the beasts. Oh yeah, I have my Circle Y western saddle. And that fits EVERYONE. Never had a complaint. ;D
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Post by bindi on Feb 18, 2003 1:28:55 GMT -5
I too have one of those Old Brown Saddles. I am pretty sure that it is a general purpose and only cost me $80 NZD, about $30 US... It fits Lily and I have so much padding on my rear end it seems to do me just fine also. Mind you as we are still only walking and stopping in the paddock at the moment there isn't a lot of stress anywhere.
Bindi
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Post by Shannon on Feb 18, 2003 3:41:39 GMT -5
My vote for seriously undervalued, but great saddles are the ones made by Pariani. They're from IT-LEE! They're hand made and retail for astronomical prices, but you can find older used ones quite reasonably. Mine is 35 years old and I loff it. I have it and a Crosby Hunterdon and it is my absolute favorite between the two - incredibly comfortable, and the horses like it too. Puts you into exactly the right position and has great contact between you and the horse. Fits The Fabulous Yonkie especially well. If I had my druthers, I would get a semi-custom new saddle from them. I got mine for under $100. I see them for under $300 from time to time. Here's the kicker - I emailed the company in Italy to ask if they could tell me what model my saddle was from the serial number. I got a prompt reply from someone who turns out to be one of the owners of the company, who actually looked it up for me in their records! Which is of course how I now know that it is 35 years old.
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Post by Smay on Feb 18, 2003 10:09:48 GMT -5
.. and it's the variety of horses you own. The table top arab sounds like our pony, who doesn't fit in any manmade saddle except for the rubber treed Wintec child's saddle we bought him. And the narrow, Mt.Everest Withered TBs are extremely hard to fit... Teddy just isn't happy in any saddle so I bought my nice bareback pad for him. I do want a treeless Ansur like mrd has, but those are hideously expensive and I can't justify it. You know..I have about ten saddles, none of which I use much. Too bad I can't lend you one since you lent me a cool bridle! I DO have this ancient Pariani jumping saddle that is wicked broke in and SO comfy to the horses...it's just hard to ride for ME cause it's an extreme forward seat saddle..you have to be in hunt position at all times to stay with the horse...
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Post by Smay on Feb 18, 2003 10:12:20 GMT -5
I just NOW read your post and here I am posting about MY Pariani saddle and how comfy it is, and how OLD it is! Mine is at least 35 years old... maybe more. Isn't that FUNNY? Yes, they made the BEST saddles. Are they even in business anymore?
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Post by Shannon on Feb 18, 2003 19:38:43 GMT -5
that we are using the same BRAIN! Oh yes, they are still in business. Here's a link to an article about them, and the link to their own website is at the bottom of that page. www.equiworld.net/uk/ezine/0203/betapariani.htmAside from throwing you into the jumping position, don't you loff yours? I am serious, they are like finally getting to wear a really expensive pair of shoes and thinking - "Ahhhh - I GET it!" Mine is an AP kind of model - they have a "Military" style on their website that I bet would be awesome for trails and general use. I keep watching and hope to pick up another one someday. But no new one for me, unless I win that there lottery!
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Post by Dawn on Feb 18, 2003 22:16:32 GMT -5
Hi, I mainly trail ride, do competitive mounted orienteering rides & such, lots of hours. But also play around at barrels, team penning, & such. On my TB I used an older Simco Barrel Saddle, fit great, and bought reasonable second hand. Doesn't fit my newer gelding though as this ones withers are actually higher. I just ordered a cm saddle from Lamb Saddlery of Kentucky. Have his number if you need it. Met the owner at a local tack shop open house & was impressed. Will be custom made to what I need for less than 1000 dollars. Had new saddles by his co. there for 6-800 which seemed pretty reasonable compared to everything else I have seen. They were real nice quality just not the big names of the other companies. Good luck!
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Post by Einstein on Feb 18, 2003 23:20:44 GMT -5
I LOFF my saddle! It's a 3 year old Deavacoux. I justed it to do the bigger hunters and jumpers, and some smaller grand prixs. I had a Pessoa A/O and hated to jump over 4 foot in it, it bruised my knees, even with knee pads.
I could go on and on about my amazing saddle, but I think you can't buy them in the US anymore (I could be wrong about that) and they are about $2600. It is an amazing saddle if you're gonna be jumping alot.
BTW it fit Shorty who was tall and thin, 17'2 and 1000 pounds HUGE withers with a wither pad, and Nate who's 17'1 and 1400 pounds, wide backed and no withers. So that's why I loff it so much!
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Post by MarePower on Feb 19, 2003 14:58:54 GMT -5
I ride both girls in a County Competitor. It fits Mattie great with her high withers and fits Ami okay. (Ami being a little more rotund then Mattie and only medium withers). I ride dressage (my own version of it...believe me I try but somedays ya gotta wonder! LOL) and I also do a lot of trail riding lately for enjoyment and relaxation for both the girls and I. I also own a Wintec 500 which fits Ami great..and can use it if I decide to jump Ami (or rather when Ami takes me around the course at breakneck speed not bothering to see if I am still on board as she is having too much fun. ;D ) Tough to find a saddle sometimes for these guys and their SUPER withers, huh?
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Post by Luci on Feb 19, 2003 20:11:58 GMT -5
Boy, I wish I'd remembered you guys when I was saddle shopping the last two months for a forward seat that didn't put me out of position like the Jaguar I had bought used and had been using. (Had to finally accept that I am not 16.5" saddle material.) E-Bay is great - just be very careful that you buy from a reputible seller. I have learned a LOT! I tried out a Pessoa Classic, Pessoa AO, Crosby Excel Eq- weird ballon knee flaps for my tastes, and finally decided on a Psssoa Special Envoy. (Couldn't afford the AO's I saw and this one is very similar. Love it's reddish color on my red boy.) I'm 5'6", but all leg and have a ex long flap. That makes a big difference. I look like I'm in a jockey saddle otherwise. The Special Envoy is very comfy and was a great deal from Fort Wayne Tack (got some great breeches cheeeep! from them too) they sell lots on Ebay and out of their store. I am just learning to jump so can't even think about higher than 4' so no bruising my knees problem. My favorite saddle? My trainer's ancient Crump - the minimal saddle I had been using inbetween Jag and Pessoa. I fits everyone in our barn and you can get them for about $300 - $500 used and new on Ebay. It puts you in great position and is like riding bareback. They last forever! -I think it qualifies as an "Old Brown" I'm just about to try a Crosby Prix St. George (got burned on ebay, lesson learned) and will see how it goes on my 16.3 lanky boy. A woman I know swears by her Crosby Selle Francis. She went to it from an AO. (Also got it from Ft. Wayne Tack Room). Very pricey stuff, but you can find them used. Good luck and let us know what you end up with! If you need any Ebay tips, I buy half of my stuff there because we don't have much to choose from here in Utah and I buy cheap and used whenever possible so I can afford this addiction
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Post by Kat on Feb 20, 2003 1:38:55 GMT -5
Because 1) It was about all I could afford 2) it has soft knee pads, pincal knee and thigh blocks 3) is great for hacking, and jumping, AND just galloping in the pasture 4) it has smooth leather - I HATE that dimpled stuff 5) I got the reg width tree, and it fits my VERY high withered skinny/narrow, 17 hand TB, and my FAT 14 hand pony - with an added pad - great :-)
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